Becoming The Archetype
Biography
Christian rockers bringing a progressive sound and compassionate message to full-on death metal, Atlanta-based Becoming the Archetype were founded in 1999 under the name the Remnant. After recording a self-released album as the Remnant, the group retooled its sound and re-emerged as Becoming the Archetype, a name that references Jesus Christ as the only man who lived without sin, standing as the ideal model for mankind. In late 2004, the band signed with Solid State Records, a metal-oriented subsidiary of Tooth and Nail, and the group -- Jason Wisdom on bass and vocals, Sean Cunningham and Jon Star on guitars, Seth Hecox on guitar and keyboards, and Brent Duckett on drums -- went into the studio to record their first album as Becoming the Archetype, Terminate Damnation, which was released in the summer of 2005. The band toured extensively in support of the release, though Becoming the Archetype would go through some changes before they would enter the studio again. Star left the band to pursue a career as a recording engineer in 2006, and Alex Kenis, whose band Aletheian had toured with Becoming the Archetype, was recruited to join the group; in addition to playing guitar, Kenis also sings with BTA, with his melodic vocal style contrasting with Wisdom's gruff bark. A few months later, Cunningham resigned from the group, and Becoming the Archetype opted to work as a four-piece rather than replace him. BTA's second album, The Physics of Fire, was released by Solid State in May 2007. ~ Mark Deming, All Music Guide
Selected Discography
Not sure what I think of metalcore/de a t h m e t a l in general..(it ' s definitely different for me) but I honestly have NO problem believing that my God is all-powerful , while letting man retain his free will. My freedom to choose does not contradict His all powerfulness . Yes, I believe God is all powerful, and yes I believe in free will. We are created in God's image in that we are sentient, soul-possess i n g beings. Free Will is part of that.
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I think that its funny how all of you think that defending your faith is so important. Some food for thought: Do you think that you have free will? Yes? Is god all powerful and all knowing? Yes? Congratulati o n s . You have just contradicted yourself. Hard to believe? I'll explain. If god has known everything, always, then you can't possibly deviate from what he created you to do. So this leads to 2 conclusions: Either we are flesh machines programmed by god, or god is not all powerful/non e x i s t e n t .
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Becoming the Archetype is a totally anointed band for the Glory of God. They unashamedly preach the gospel in their lyrics throughout all of their songs. Don't let their heavy musical style mislead you. I find that their lyrics are more pointedly christian than many of the other softer genre "christian" bands. To God be the Glory!
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it doesnt matter if this band was christian or not, they still go hard. music is about the sound and rythm, not what the band members believe in.
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Death metal is mostly about sound.. if you want controversia l lyrics that "put fear into the heart of the religion" try black metal.
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The bible is loaded with stories about death, destruction, hate, revenge and wars in the name of god. So why christian metal cant also be death metal? but that doesn't really matter cause Death Metal is mostly about super techinal timings and riffs, not so much the lyrics.
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OK, Josh, you're right. Metal centered around the love of Christ is not death metal. So that must mean Becoming the Achetype is not a death metal band. You say death metal revolves around death, destruction, and hate. But BTA's music is centered around love, peace, and life. So you do the math: life + peace + love + metal = ? In other words, what would you call metal that revolves around Jesus?
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I'm sorry leave death metal to the atheists/sat a n i s t s . I don't give a damn if they sound good, if its based on f***ing christian beliefs that follow be good to others. It may sound like death metal but it is not sorry to say. The point behind death metal is well to scream and sing about hate, death, war, and controversia l things, not Jesus loves you. I don't care if you think I'm wrong but that is what has been since it was conceived as a unholy gift that put fear into the heart of the religion.
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This is certainly one of the most underrated band ever, probably due do their being openly a Christian band... They are truly great prog metal (the extreme kind, not the Dream Theater kind :P).
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dude im f**king hungry i want some of that cheesy popcorn that sounds amazin right now... good band too just very hungry
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I am not religious but these guys still rip. You dont have to be a satanist or atheist to be into metal. I am anti organized religion and I appreciate good metal no matter what. Plus you cant understand anyone anyways so who cares right? HA!
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Now about the bag of "go forth and preach creationism so evolutionist s can admit they're wrong" crap you put in front of me.I'm not saying they must admit they're wrong,I'm simply saying "don't come to us with your insults.How about I educate you a bit." These offenders insult God with lies they've heard from the media and their friends saying Jesus was a man whore all because he loves all of us.What's wrong with saying "It's not that kind of love.He loves you the way a dad would to his son."?
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So I said to him "if you think that's humorous, you're the only one laughing... when you say these things, you hurt people" or something along those lines. I'm still waiting for a response, if I get one. But if I do, that gives me an opportunity to share the name of Christ. I think that sometimes God uses debating as a way to get through to hard headed people like Elhombre. Did you ever think of that, mon ami? My point is, once again, to be heard then to be compassionat e afterwards.
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I'll give you a good example. A kid named Elhombre decided to say "Hail Satan!" and later called Jesus a "lotion-lovi n g man whore." Now I know it hurt me, you, other christians, and it most certainly hurt Jesus as well. So I came to the defense of every faithful man and woman and of God Himself by assuming he was satanic and that he was believing a lie. He then claimed he wasn't satanic all because he said "Hail Satan!". In fact, he called his comments on our faith "humor".
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I love both God and people ennsjd07. But I think that some people just need to be corrected when they offend us and God AND possibly made right with Him, wouldn't you think? Once again, I believe fellow christians should speak the name of God after defending Him. I agree, the church was split because of arguing, but that also happened because many didn't share the name of Christ when they were done arguing.
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this band is amazing and i love them. the fact that their christian is a good thing and i pray for those of you who disagree and are atheists. christ is amazing and he will always be.
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James talks about showing your faith by what you do, not how we argue. Arguing and not being ok with disagreeing is what has been dividing the church for the past 2000 some years. Jesus talks about loving God/people as fulfilling everything. I'm sure there are better ways to love my neighbor than debating with him about how the world was formed. Perhaps the creation vs. evolution debate is a device used by satan in order to distract God's people from their mission. Love God. Love People.Yes? No?
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Hmmm. You pose some interesting thoughts. I do think the creationist evolutionist debate is vain. Does God really care that much whether we make people believe the world was created in 6 days? or would he rather have us showing people the love he has for them by actions? I don't ever recall Jesus saying, "Go, therefore and preach creationism so that all evolutionist s will have to admit that I am right." I am pretty sure it's about way more than that.... I could be wrong though.
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when people insult us and, more importantly, God, it's important to tell them that. I'm not trying to slam you here, I'm just trying to correct a few points and tell you these defenders of the faith don't always give a bad impression when push comes to shove.
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The point is this: defend the christian faith, then invite the person into it. Then it's all up to the person. You can say I agree and disagree with you. Now as for your statement "Just because there are ideas out there that are different than we're used to doesn't make them wrong, does it?". That is what we shouldn't tell these offenders unless you want to confuse them. What, are you saying they're right ennsjd07 at the same time they're wrong? News flash, these "ideas" are lies from Satan, and
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I don't know about everybody defending their faith, but if a man came up to me and said "God isn't real and I have proof that you stupid christians are believing a lie", I would try and defend God in that instance. But what sets me apart from these people you speak of, is that I don't rub the facts in the offenders faces.Instea d I would mention God loves that man and he would be more than happy to be his lord and savior after our little debate.
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ennsjd07, are you really saying the subject many creationist professors and scientists debated over insulting evolutionist s with were all in vain? Or what about pastors in churches around the U.S. who have taught people that the sin of man is ungodly and should be rejected by all christians?
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As to the not "supping". Do you think that means we are not to associate with them? Or perhaps he was referring to not letting them have an effect on us in a negative way?
BTW, Becoming the Archetype still ROCKS, and the God they serve Rocks even more. |
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And my next question is very much in agreement with Queenie. We are to watch out for wolves in sheepskin. But I'm curious, how many people were trying to "defend the faith" and "find the wolf" when they Crucified our amazing Savior? Just because there are ideas out there that are different than we're used to doesn't make them wrong, does it? Would Jesus kill me if I had an idea that didn't line up with him? He didn't kill Peter, or John or James, and they had a bunch of way-out ideas.
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I have questions. I am curious how "defending the faith" is going to invite people to join us in it. I've taken college courses on apologetics and I'm still confused about how people think defending Christian faith is better than inviting others to try it instead. Wouldn't God be the best defender of his faith? Why are we trying to do his job for him? Let's spend our time introducing people to this God instead of defending him; Moving people toward this God, not prevent them from getting close.
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I agree with you Queenie but where did evolution pop out from? It's like you randomly mentioned it. But despite your randomness, you're altogether correct. Keep up your good intelligence .
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yet it was never retracted in school systems, and LASTly as far as how a beleiver is to treat a non beleveir, WE are not to even sup with them on one hand, and on the other we are to love all, so go figure it out for yourself, but really watch out for the supposed christians , wolves in csheeps clothing, that tell lies mixed in truth decieving you for they trully are damned, and to end on a good note i f*rted
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Ok, as far as band goes, they rock
As to the bible being true, you can only se eit if you believe it, / as far as eveolution is concerend, there are holes all in it,even darwin was a christain, and evolution takes as much faith to believ in if you truly study it out, not just what the teach you in school, such as the supposed reamains of the link between man and ape that were used to institute the +fact+ in schools that evolution is tru, they were a few years later found to be chimp remains, ye |
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wow... 500 digits only?
Okay, so my point is this. Metal heads are a closed minded bunch. Counter productive. If we all decided not to listen to or support a band because we didn't like what they said in their lyrics, metal, especially controversia l and good metal, would die. I'm not ok with that. I say if a band presents something worthwhile, it's worthwhile, not based on philosophy. It should be based on brutality or listenabilit y . nothing else. |
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what's all the talk about drop this or that?
Botom line? These cats are together making this bad a** music because of the things they talk about. Yes, A priority is to make the most brutal music possible and the best product they can make. It's not different than any band out there fellas. Some bands want to make a place for their thoughts to be dislayed, and beliefs. Take Amon Amarth, totally rad at what they do, but why are they together doing it? They have a belief that they want explained, a |
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So you're saying let them denounce not only us and our faith but God Himself? I really think we, the "bible thumpers", need to defend the christian faith. Now I'm not saying we should hate the ones who attack us... yes, I agree we are to love them, but they DO need to see the love of God. But the majority of non-believer s don't see for themselves because of their ignorrance. So we must tell them something...
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If Christians are incapable of explaining Christianity with love, then what is the point in talking about it? If we just tell them they need to "grow up and make the smart choice" we hurt the cause of BTA and the God they serve a lot more than we help.
I vote we try loving first and see what happens. It's what BTA is doing. |
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Andrewondorf f . . . I disagree with your initial statement strongly... but that is not what I got on here to say.
I am not certain your statements (and those of other "Bible Thumpers") are really helping BTA's intention in being a band. If they are attempting to invade the metal scene talking about this God they love and serve, don't you think the audience would be more inclined to receive it when people who call themselves Christians do what they are supposed to be doing? (Aka, Loving people??) |
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