Black Flag
Biography
In many ways, Black Flag were the definitive Los Angeles hardcore punk band. Although their music flirted with heavy metal and experimental noise and jazz more than that of most hardcore bands, they defined the image and the aesthetic. Through their ceaseless touring, the band cultivated the American underground punk scene; every year, Black Flag played in every area of the U.S., influencing countless numbers of bands. Although their recording career was hampered by a draining lawsuit, which was followed by a seemingly endless stream of independently released records, the band was unquestionably one of the most influential American post-punk bands. A full decade and a half before the fusion of punk and metal became popular, Black Flag created a ferocious, edgy, and ironic amalgam of underground aesthetics and gut-pounding metal. Their lyrics alluded to social criticism and a political viewpoint, but it was all conveyed as seething, cynical angst, which was occasionally very funny. Furthermore, Black Flag demonstrated an affection for bohemia -- both in terms of musical experimentation and a fondness for poetry -- that reiterated the band's underground roots and prevented it from becoming nothing but a heavy metal group.
And it didn't matter who was in the band -- throughout the years, the lineup changed numerous times -- because the Black Flag name and four-bar logo became punk institutions.
Black Flag was formed in 1977 by guitarist Greg Ginn, a graduate of UCLA. Ginn formed the band with bassist Chuck Dukowski; the pair soon added drummer Brian Migdol and vocalist Keith Morris. At the same time, Ginn and Dukowski formed an independent record label, SST, which released the band's first EP, Nervous Breakdown, in 1978. Morris and Migdol departed the following year -- Morris went on to form the Circle Jerks -- and they were respectively replaced with Chavo Pederast and Robo. By the release of 1980's Jealous Again, Black Flag had begun to tour the U.S. relentlessly, building up a small, but dedicated, following of fans. After the release of Jealous Again, Pederast left the group and was replaced by Dez Cadena. However, Cadena preferred to play guitar, and his transition to that instrument in 1981 gave the group a heavier sound; his replacement on vocals was Henry Rollins, a Washington, D.C., fan who jumped on-stage to sing with the band during a New York performance.
Early in 1981, Black Flag signed a record contract with Unicorn Records, a subsidiary of MCA. The band delivered their first full-length album, Damaged, to Unicorn; the label refused to release the record, citing the content of the music as too dangerous and vulgar. Undaunted, Ginn released the album on his own SST Records. Upon its release, the album received considerable critical acclaim. Soon after it appeared on the shelves, Unicorn sued Black Flag and SST over the release of Damaged. For the next two years, the band was prevented from using the name Black Flag or their logo on any records. During that time, the group continued to tour, and surreptitiously released Everything Went Black, a double-album retrospective that contained no mention of the band, although it listed the names of the members on the front cover. The dispute ended in 1983, when Unicorn went bankrupt and the rights to the Black Flag name and logo reverted back to the band (by this time, Cadena had left to form his own group).
As if to make up for lost time, Black Flag became impossibly prolific when it returned to recording in 1984. A new version of the group -- featuring Ginn on guitar and bass (the latter was credited to the pseudonym Dale Nixon), Rollins, and drummer Bill Stevenson -- recorded the albums My War and Family Man. After those two albums were recorded, the group added bassist Kira Roessler and cut Slip It In, its third official album of 1984. In addition to those three albums, Black Flag released the cassette-only Live '84 and the compilation The First Four Years in 1984, as well as reissuing Everything Went Black with all the proper credits restored. The group's touring and recording pace didn't slow in 1985; they released three records: Loose Nut, The Process of Weeding Out, and In My Head. By the end of the year, Anthony Martinez replaced Stevenson on drums.
After Black Flag released the live album Who's Got the 10½? in early 1986, Greg Ginn broke up the band. Ginn recorded two albums with the more experimental Gone, but he primarily concentrated on running SST Records, which had become one of the most important American independent labels of the era. By the time Black Flag broke up, SST had already released albums by such bands as Hüsker Dü, the Minutemen, Meat Puppets, and Sonic Youth. For most of the late '80s, Ginn retired from performing, choosing to operate SST Records instead; during this time, the label released the first recordings from bands like Soundgarden, Dinosaur Jr., and Screaming Trees. Ginn returned to music in 1993, releasing a solo album on his new record label, Cruz.
Following Black Flag's breakup, Henry Rollins formed the Rollins Band. For the rest of the '80s, he released music recorded with the Rollins Band on a variety of independent labels, as well as solo spoken-word recordings. In the early '90s, Rollins became one of the most recognizable figures of alternative music. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide
Selected Discography

Wasted Again
1987

Who's Got The 10 1/2? (Live)
1986

Loose Nut
1985

The Process Of Weeding Out
1985

In My Head
1985

Louie Louie
1981

Nervous Breakdown
1978
Always amazes me that people argue about how music does or does not suck. Isn't it about taste? I love BF, but hate Guns n Roses like the guy down there does not. No, I don't think one of their crappy (IMO) albums sounds fresh. It makes me think of big hair and rolled jeans. But YOU can and I won't poop on your sidewalk. Jeez people. Where's the love?
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They were better when Keith Morris was with them, that's all I'm gonna say.
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Uhh, no. Have you even listened to their later work? It's really pretentious free jazz. You can't skate to free jazz.
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And on the subject of selling out, we go to Jello Biafra: "It's a safe little womb to have MaximumRocka n d R o l l as your bible adn to think that the worlds most important issue is whether Jawbreaker sold out while ignoring the homeless people outside. That's not community. Bickering endlessly over s**t that doesn't matter is not community, it's junior high."
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On the subject of the music, why the f**k did they kick out the Circle Jerks vocalist? He was a better vocalist, he had so much more anger than Rollins, and he was less of a pretensious( s i c ) douche. And who gives a f**k about what Henry Rollins says, he sold out by having an MTV show.
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Kinda sucks that the only way to pay for Pandora's service is with a credit card only. WTF?!F**kers ? ? ! ! Oh well..
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Classes start tommorrow for me, can't wait to step on campus with my new Black Flag tee shirt. band freakin rocks
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Bromide, if you have a link to that comment please pass it my way....
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Henry Rollins said Pandora is a sell out by limiting people to only 40 hours a month of free listening time.
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and i agree with the brian guy. people only like em b/ other people do and They dont wanna be "left out" f**king c*m dumpsters
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One of the best Hardcore bands ever. Second in my opinion only to The Misfits.
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who is talking s**t u r little posers lets c u f*gs come up with any type of music close to this back in the 80's suck it
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anything SST is pretty much essential collection material...i n c l u d i n g the Tar Babies who most people never heard of...if you call SST they might still have a copy or two of their stuff laying around...the y did for me but then again I am awsome...
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If everyone liked them they wouldn't be so cool. most people are f**king idiots
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It's too bad that some have had a bad intro to Black Flag.Maybe they aren't a band you listen to and immediately like/love, well not everyone.As any good punk does, he/she doesn't follow a herd. If everyone rips on someone for not liking Black Flag or another band, that punk will probably never like them.It took me awhile to come around to the Germs.Yeah, crazy huh?Love them for a long time now.The Decline isn't the best intro to the Germs.Their album would have made me a fan from first listen.
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greg ginn is a staple..f**k i n punk genius. keith morris didnt get enough "props.rolli n s is however killer and deserves respect. forming rollins band in my opinion was a gr8 move for him and the rest is as they say history."-HA H A H A H ! Greg Gin has to be the shittiest punk guitar player ever!
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I love old school punk, but i have to say, Black Flag SUCKS! FEAR, NIP DRIVERS, CODE OF HONOR, BAD BRAINS....TH A T ' S GOOD PUNK.
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I learned to play guitar to this in the punk rock days. No wonder I can't play wotrh a f.uck!
But this, and I, DO ROCK! muahahahaha |
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greg ginn is a staple..f**k i n punk genius. keith morris didnt get enough props.rollin s is however killer and deserves respect. forming rollins band in my opinion was a gr8 move for him and the rest is as they say history.
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lol!i did not know dated music was bad!i better hurry up and throw away all this old dated crap like BlackSabbath , p r e i s t , R A M O N E S , f l a g , e t c and run down to the mall and get some new flavor of the month band with fancy hairpoos
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fix me fix my head fix me plz i dont wanna be dead........ . . . . . . . . . . . . fuckkin delicious boys!!!!!!!
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Good point Chux, Illusion 1 and 2, I agree are stuck in an 80's vibe as well, however Appetite for destruction STILL sounds as fresh and energetic as the day it was released, you must admit. I do agree, not all old music sounds dated.
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Music doesn't have a "Born on Date". Calling Black Flag "Dated" whilst having a "Guns N' Roses" Station is funny as Hell. I'm sure kids forty years from now aren't going to be jamming out to "Use your Illusion I & II because face it...nobody jams out that crap now('cept for old c**k rockers that is). Time marches on buddy...Ha!
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I do agree Holy water a lot of "present day" music does, in fact "lick balls" as you put it. However, with a little open minded searching you will find that utilizing the vast outlets for new and unknown bands, now more than ever, you will find exciting and new sounds you did not even know existed. Look, hardcore had it's place , but then again so did big bands in the 40's. You know? But it cannot be the end all be all of the musical experience. Time marches on, you are either with it or not
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No it was not the year I was born. Why do you ask? Black flag is still dated. They were not cool in the 80's they are not cool NOW. O.K. get over it. God are you BF fans sensitive. I'll go one further, All U.S. "hardcore" was, and is a joke. Now that you know, get out of the past. It sucked then. It still sucks.
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black flag kicks a**. love em. don1983, is that the yr u were born?tis the yr i was born, so shut the hell up. ur making our generation look bad. u suck. Black Flag! and i must say that a lot of the "present day" music licks balls, so that is why i like listening to "dated" music. woot woot! have a good one, everybody!
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DON THE DOOSHBAG- YOU NEED TO SUCK SOME GG ALLIN DOWN BEFORE YOU KNOW WHAT THE 80'S ARE ABOUT. 80'S ROCK YOU SUCK.
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Well, you ALMOST constructed a sentence. Bad grammar, spelling, etc. aside, I was just saying, this music ,live or not, still sounds dated to me. No offense directed towards you, as I do not know you, but I like to live in the present day, not some old fogie, waxing nostalgic about some bygone glory days and lamenting how "these damn kids have no clue", the "old days", etc. THESE are the days.
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Don1983 what sound is it you like since you were not old enough to see any of the main bands play live or know what is like to be around any of these bands unless 1983 is the year you dropped out of highschool. late 90's would be when you started really listening to music can not think of any profound bands from that time period. So you have no idea what you are talking about your generation is the copycat genaration from the cloths to the music we already did all of that in the 80's and the ear
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I guess I cannot really put into words WHY, but I can express that BF music is kind of trapped in this 80's vibe, like really dated. Like how some music from the 60's sounds trapped in the 60's, like with sitars and backward cymbals, such is BF and MOST of the "hardcore" bands of this era. Trapped in the 80's.
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