Really? These guys sound way less derivative of Sonic Youth than about 100 other bands I could list (not that that's a bad thing anyway). To the person who referred to them as "crap" that he was dumbfounded to have pop up on his metal station: expand your limited musical horizons, knob. I don't know, I've heard a few songs on here and dig it. Hey, Pandora folks, could we get a bio?