The Pogues
Biography
By demonstrating that the spirit of punk could live in traditional Irish folk music, the Pogues were one of the most radical bands of the mid-'80s. Led by Shane MacGowan, whose slurred, incomprehensible voice often disguised the sheer poetry of his songs, the Pogues were undeniably political -- not only were many of their songs explicitly in favor of working-class liberalism, but the wild, careening sound of their punk-injected folk was implicitly radical. While the band was clearly radical, they also had a wickedly warped sense of humor, which was abundantly clear on their biggest hit, the fractured Christmas carol "Fairy Tale of New York." The group's first three albums -- Red Roses for Me, Rum Sodomy & the Lash, If I Should Fall From Grace With God -- were widely praised in both Britain and America, and by 1988 they had earned substantial cult followings in both countries. Yet MacGowan's darkly romantic, wasted lifestyle, which was so key to their spirit and success, ultimately proved to be their downfall. By the end of the decade, he had fallen deep into alcoholism and drug addiction, forcing the band to fire him if they wanted to survive. The Pogues carried on without him in the early '90s, playing to a slowly shrinking audience, before finally disbanding in 1996.
Shane MacGowan, an Irish punk inspired by the Clash, formed the Pogues in 1982 after playing with the London-based punk band the Nipple Erectors, a group which was later called the Nips. MacGowan met Spider Stacy in a London tube station, where Stacy was playing a tin whistle. The two began working together, drafting former Nip Jim Fearnley to play guitar. Naming themselves Pogue Mahone -- a Gaelic term meaning "kiss my a**" -- the trio began playing traditional Irish tunes in London pubs and streets, eventually adding Jem Finer (banjo, guitar), Andrew David Ranken (drums) and Cait O'Riordan (bass) to make it a full band. As the group developed into a sextet, they added MacGowan's original songs to their repertoire, and began earning a reputation as a wild, drunken and exciting live act. Shortening their name to the Pogues, the group released an independent single, "Dark Streets of London," in early 1984 and supported the Clash on their summer tour. By the fall, they had signed with Stiff Records and had released their acclaimed debut Red Roses for Me.
Red Roses for Me was a critical hit, establishing the Pogues as one of the most vital, and certainly one of the most political, bands in Britain. Early in 1985, they added guitarist Philip Chevron and recorded Rum Sodomy and the Lash with producer Elvis Costello. The album was an underground success and was widely praised, especially for MacGowan's songwriting -- not only in the U.K., but also in the U.S., where they were becoming college radio staples. Instead of following Rum Sodomy and the Lash with a new album, the Pogues took nearly a full year hiatus from recording, releasing the Poguetry in Motion EP in 1986 and appearing in Alex Cox's film Straight to Hell in 1987. By 1988, O'Riordan had left the band to marry Costello, and she was replaced by Darryl Hunt; banjoist Terry Woods was also added to the band. Early in 1988, they signed to Island Records and released the Steve Lillywhite-produced If I Should Fall From Grace With God later that year. The album became the group's biggest hit, generating the number two U.K. single "Fairytale of New York," which featured vocalist Kirsty MacColl.
Although the Pogues were peaking in popularity, Shane MacGowan's relentless drug and alcohol abuse was beginning to cripple the band. Although neither the 1989 hit single "Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah" or Peace and Love (also '89) were noticeably affected by his excesses, MacGowan missed the Pogues' prestigious opening dates in 1988 for Bob Dylan and stalked the stage like a madman during a pivotal Saturday Night Live performance. By 1990s Hell's Ditch, Spider Stacy and Jem Finer began singing the bulk of the Pogues' material. Despite positive reviews, Hell's Ditch was a flop, and the group wasn't able to support the record because of MacGowan's behavior. Consequently, he was asked to leave the band in 1991; three years later, he returned with a new band, the Popes. For subsequent tours, the Clash's Joe Strummer filled in as lead vocalist, but by the time the band recorded their comeback Waiting for Herb in 1993, Stacy had become the permanent vocalist. Waiting for Herb was kindly reviewed, yet was also ignored, as was 1995's Pogue Mahone. In 1996, the Pogues decided to disband after 14 years in the business, though in 2001 the group reunited (with Shane MacGowan in tow) for a short British tour. ~ Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide
Selected Discography

Just Look Them Straight In The Eye And Say... Pogue Mahone!!
2008

The Ultimate Collection
2005

Waiting For Herb
2005

Peace & Love (Remastered)
2005

Streams Of Whiskey (Live)
2002

The Very Best Of...
2001

Pogue Mahone
1996

The Rest Of The Best
1994

Hell's Ditch
1990

If I Should Fall From Grace With God
1988

Rum, Sodomy & The Lash
1985

Red Roses For Me
1984
This willow character is hilarious... almost every artist messageboard you click on, he is pissing people off by claiming Godsmack is better. The stupid thing is that it actually works, people respond and apparently get really upset and try to ream his digital a**hole and such. God it's funny. Just ignore the jacka** and he'll either go away or try to flood a messageboard for want of attention at which point he can legitimately be banned from posting.
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One of the best bands ever. Why do the most clever artists have to run themselves into the ground?
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I achieved Nirvana while at a Pogues show in the mid-80's at a small club. It was in Boston and Joe f**king Strummer was playing acoustic guitar with the band, he just sat in like a member of the band. Shane was drunk—as usual—but brilliant. Midway thru the show Joe came up and they ripped off 4 Clash songs. I was never the same after seeing that show.
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I went to see them in the early 90's. Shane came out carrying a guiness cursed the audience and fell over dead drunk and remained there for most of the show. It is a shame.
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This bio needs to be updated, seriously. I have seen them once a year for the past 3 years, and will see them again in March 2009. I would consider them one of my top 5 bands. They are awesome live.
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By accident or by true vision, The Pogues found a certain perfect balance that to this day sets the bar high for every "Irish" band that followed them. Their cover tunes and originals never sounded phony or forced. Dismissing them or (even worse) emulating them as just a drunken Irish "Paddy" band means missing the whole point of some of the best written songs of the 20th Century. The Pogues are often (poorly) imitated but never equaled.
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Shane did NOT meet Spider in a tube station. Spider did not play tin whistle until AFTER the Pogues formed. He played the beer tray for that reason. It's in the new biography about the band.
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kind of gotta hear them in a pub- o'yea - you must be slurpin a beer or downing a few shots of good ole' irish whiskey - or do both together. Sit back and enjoy.
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love sounds like bob dylan and tom waits put together. just add some irish whiskey for flavor.
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OK, I listened to a bunch more of their songs, and he only sounds drunk in a few of them. And I really like how they use traditional tunes, like in "London You're a Lady."
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This Bio is out of date. I saw the Pogues (with Shane) just this past spring! :P
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Anyone who has seen them live is justified (in a sense) of judging the boys as talented musicians, not even a question for the lot of us,...
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to anyone who says the pogues aren't talented, or thinks their music sucks let me say "POGUE MAHONE!" read the band bio if you don't know what it means!
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well working class hero hip hop is just bad with terrible lymrics about being a pimp
at least the pogues sang about things that mattered and were problems in the day like English opressiona and injustice towards the Irish |
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While I agree with adams dinah, that the Pogues are extremely talented, his comments regarding Hip-Hop are very telling concerning his ignorance of the genre whether you like the genre or not, it does require talent and shouldn't be cast aside as "not music" or "just people talking"
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The Pogues have been my favorite band for a very long time, and i've been listening to them all my life. if one thing can hold the attention span of a 12 year old for that long, there is a huge amount of talent behind it. it's hard to tolerate some other types of music, like rap and hip-hop, because i'm so used to the raw power of Shane MacGowan.
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Shane McGowan amazes me the way he can sing rip-roaring rambunctious tunes, but still sing some really beautiful songs like Auld Triangle and Fairytale of New York.
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going to see them im NY next March for the 3rd year in a row. Still a fantastic live band.
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The most violent, (And consequently most entertaining ) concerts I ever went to was a tripple bill at "the Pier" on the west side of Manhattan, back in the mid 80's It was Mojo Nixon and Skid Poper, The Violent Femmes, and the Pogues...awe s o m e . . . . T u r k
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They are certainly one of my favorite bands...as important as The Clash...my wife also enjoys them...it's a good thing she can't understand the words.
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I believe they just played (*with Shane MacGowan*) in Seattle back in October. Keep your eyes open for a tour! I second pipersgator' s sentiment... saw them in Chicago in ~1990 and it remains the best show I've ever seen.
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