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Saccharine Trust

Although Greg Ginn's record label SST was, early on, associated with the angry, overamped guitar rant of SoCal hardcore (some of which came courtesy of Ginn's own band Black Flag), SST was also recording bands that pushed the limits of hardcore. Bands like the Minutemen, Universal Congress Of, and especially Saccharine Trust gleefully tossed in chunks of '70s progressive rock, avant-garde jazz, and funky kicks and pops into a stew already percolating with heavy(ish) metal riffing, shouted vocals, and extreme volume. Not all of the boundary-pushing that Saccharine Trust did was good (in fact, some of it is downright awful), but when they kept their tendency toward grandiose self-indulgence in check, they were a pretty formidable proposition, especially live, and recorded at least one indispensable record, 1986's We Became Snakes.

Formed in the early '80s by Joaquin (aka Jack) Brewer and guitarist Joe Baiza, Saccharine Trust metamorphosed from a dissonant, noisy, anti-rock quartet into a more sophisticated, but still jagged and noisy rock-jazz band. Frequently, the band's "songs" were semi- or wholly improvised using a basic riff or simple drum pattern for guidance, rapidy expanding into uncharted territory. Not the most important band to emerge from Los Angeles in the early '80s, Saccharine Trust is interesting for incorporating varied textural elements into a genre that was defined by volume and simplicity. This band took risks that many of their SoCal brethren would never have dreamed of taking. This, however, does not make Saccharine Trust better than their peers, simply different, and a little more intriguing. By the early '90s, Brewer started his own band called, big surprise, the Jack Brewer Band. Joe Baiza formed the fine, funky, and exciting Universal Congress Of. ~ John Dougan
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Selected Discography

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Track List: Past Lives

1. Devin's Poem (live)

2. A Human Certainty

3. Our Discovery (live)

4. Young Lamb (live)

5. Six Pack (live)

6. The Cat Cracker

7. II Samuel Ch 4

8. I Have (live)

9. The Giver Takes

10. Express Yourself

11. Take Us Now

12. For Her While

13. For Her While Speak

14. Effort To Waste

15. Effort To Waste II

16. A Lasting Thought For A Dying Cell

17. The Need

18. Hearts & Barbarians

19. No Lunch

20. Peace Frog

21. We Became Snakes

22. Frankie On A Pony

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Track List: We Became Snakes

1. We Became Snakes

2. Drugstore Logic

3. Frankie On A Pony

4. The Need

5. For Her While

6. Effort To Waste

7. The Redeemer

8. Longing For Ether

9. Belonging To October

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Track List: Worldbroken

1. The Worm's Quest (live)

2. Just Think (live)

3. Merciful Mother (live)

4. Estuary (live)

5. Hail Our Web (live)

6. In This Sandbox

7. II Samuel Chapter 4

8. The Testimony

9. Words Left Unspoken

10. Fred Presented Himself To Joseph

11. On The Verge Of Finding

12. No Compromise Here

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Track List: Paganicons

1. I Have ...

2. Community Lie

3. Effort To Waste

4. Mad At The Co.

5. I Am Right

6. We Don't Need Freedom

7. Success And Failure

8. A Human Certainty

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surviving you always where are you
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yeah, "pagan icons" is a classic
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"pagan icons" not in the discography? wow.

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